In this episode, SuperLutheran and Myles are joined by Louis Conde to discuss Mary, mother of Jesus. We discuss who she is, why she’s special, and get into the details of Catholic Mariology. Louis sticks around to answer some emails in the second half.
Are Jews the chosen people of God? No: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzHB5Caglgo
Age of Ruin: From the Ashes: https://poa.st/@Godcast/posts/ALVRT05jJfK3me3PtY
The first of what I hope to be many entries in a science fiction universe both by and for /ourguys/.
Things we talked about during the show:
Mary: https://infogalactic.com/info/Mary_(mother_of_Jesus)
Mary in the Catechism of the Catholic Church: https://marian.org/mary/in-the-catechism
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Praying to Mary doesn’t hold up from an Aristotelian perspective. If the idea is that Mary can get Christ to do something He doesn’t want to do .. He told us when and why He would do that for us already: Luke 11:8.
Going through a secondary intermediary seems to explicitly contradict this boldness. I believe that boldness is important. Important enough for Him to mention.
The idea is that more people praying for you is better, and since Jesus loves his mama, she’s a good intercessor.
That implies there is something lacking in the promise “If you ask for anything in my name, I will do it.”
“Name it, claim it,” eh? Truly, do you take issue with asking people to pray for you?
So.. you see the problem here. Or not, either way I’m not going to participate with you in pretending like the reasonable thing to do is not to believe Him.
But what’s strange about your argument is that you start off by assuming that Christ isn’t saying what He’s saying, then you engage in the pretense that you can get *closer* to what He’s saying by asking Mary. It makes no sense ontologically, doctrinally, or on any level. Do you pray for things or not?
Why the woman in Revelation pertains to the Jerusalem of Galatians 4:26, and not Mary:
– The church did spread throughout the earth after Christ was taken up to His throne. This comports with “strike the shepherd, and the sheep will scatter.” In the world but not of it – the woman, heavenly Jerusalem of which His followers are citizens, is in exile in the world.
– Mary had Christ, went into exile in Egypt with Him, then He lived His life and gave His ministry and was caught up to His throne. She is an archetype of Jerusalem. But the prophecy is only chronologically fulfilled by Heavenly Jerusalem – after it was “taken away from [them] and given to a people that will produce its fruit.”
The prophetic meaning of women in scripture, virgins of Judah and Israel, the woman in the basket in Zechariah, the Jerusalem above, *this* is where you pull from to understand the apocolyptic Revelation.
Sorry for the double post but I had to respond to that.
So do you have links to any evidence that this woman is not a jew?
Mary, Mother of Jesus was a Hebrew. Duh.
I am curious about your opinions guys.
a) how many kids Miriam (Mary) had? I am not getting into paternity issues, just maternity angle.
b) what happened to her after the crucifixion of Yeshua?
I don’t know the exact number of Mary’s children, but the Bible says Jesus had brothers and sisters, and I think they were all Mary’s children.
Church tradition holds that Mary was a member of the Church, and that at some point she was assumed bodily into Heaven. The Bible is silent on that particular topic, but I think it’s true.
All correct answers.
It reminds me of the Star Trek episode. “It’s not what you believe in, it’s how hard you can believe in it”.
That’s an important point you made, “The Bible is silent on that particular topic, but I think it’s true.”
You have transcended well past the framework of the Scriptures. Where the scriptural road endeth, you are ready to forge your own path. Smooth, wide and ready, it is inviting to glide on.
Bravo.
Louis is awesome, have him more often.