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First of all, let me state that I do not like Myles Poland. That may be unrelated to his article but I am not writing to dispute anything that he said. In fact, there was a certain gravitas to his words that moved me to write. I am writing to answer the request for practical advice.
I would like to anticipate one credible criticism which I have faced in this type of discussion: I have not had to get a date in a very long time. This is true and you may use it against me if you like. I have heard that “things are really bad now with dating and between the sexes” and it might be so. But I will tell you that in 1990, when I got married, I knew several guys who could not get a girlfriend to save their lives. You know, good guys, gainfully employed guys, fit guys, etc. Twelve years later, I found myself single again. And guess what? I was able to not only get dates and a girlfriend, but soon married another woman (and have been married for going on 20 years) before any of these same guys were married or had a girlfriend. So, in my lifetime, I have observed that dating has been tough for others to as great an extent as it is now. Guys twenty and thirty years ago had trouble getting dates, girlfriends and wives.
Quite a bit has been made about the differential of power that women have in divorce court. Yes, this is true and yes, these difficulties must be managed, anticipated, and countered in whatever ways necessary. I consider this in an even broader sense. Making myself open and available to women did leave me vulnerable to being hurt, and being hurt emotionally has been more painful to me than any financial consequence. So, I look at the risk of being hurt in one way or another as just the price of dealing with women. If you want to love and be loved by a woman, you can be hurt.
Briefly, I will address tattoos. Some subcultures really celebrate tattoos. In my set, tattoos are OK and I find tattoos on women to be sexy, depending on the tattoo and the woman. My wife has a beautiful tattoo across her breasts, and I think it’s sexy as hell.
On to the advice. I have no idea where I stand in attractiveness to women. I believe I am in pretty good shape. I always think compliments are just someone “being nice” and insults are just people having a bad day. I do know this though: A certain percentage of women like me. Over the years I have learned that everyone has a “type”. If you pay attention and talk to enough women you will figure out what percentage of women like you, what percentage of women you have a natural affinity for and how to recognize them. But the key is you have to talk to and interact with many women until you get good at this. You have to learn to flirt constantly and effortlessly. This may seem low class to you but get over it. In order to find the right woman that you think you cannot find, you must talk to many women. I have told a story on another occasion of a friend who could reliably find four-leaf clovers. People thought he was magical. The fact is that in a patch of clover there is a four-leaf clover present, if not several, and you just need to find them. You must learn the process of scanning large amounts of clover and spotting the four-leaf clover.
Sometimes, you might be turning off the “good ones”. The more you talk to women you will begin to figure out the little things that you might be doing wrong. There are little ticks that communicate low confidence, desperation, or other negative qualities. You must learn these things. Do you think salesmen are discouraged by being told ‘no’ all the time? Hell, no! That’s just part of the whole thing. Talk to women, flirt with women, ask women out on dates shamelessly. I was standing in line at the grocery store watching a nigger flirt with a woman in line ahead of him. That’s what you’ve got to do and that’s why niggers get chicks all the time. Talk to women at the grocery store, at church, at the gas station, at parties, in the neighborhood, at the park, at the club. There are good women out there. Go find them.
Another point made in Poland’s article addressed hormonal birth control. Women on birth control is a problem, yes. The corollary to this is that if you are looking at pornography or immorally abusing yourself your instinct for relating to women, identifying good prospects and pursuing women will be compromised. If you have spent a significant amount of time in this habit your instincts may have been damaged.
But guess what? Guys do get married to great women. How did they do it? Some guys are just better at this than others. You got no shame in your game. Learn from the guys who have succeeded at this. I have seen guys who aim too low or too high. If your confidence is low maybe you go after awkward girls, fat girls or someone you think is more accessible. If you are a higher quality dude you might be shocked when these more humble chicks turn you down. They will detect the possible mismatch. Maybe you should try to go for the supermodel. On the other hand, if you think you’re hot shit you might be disappointed when the “hot chicks” constantly turn you down, time after time or it just doesn’t work out after a few dates. Maybe give that girl who doesn’t wear make-up and has a little chub going on a chance. Those chicks can bring some fire!
I have had a lot of great sex in my life – but with only a few women – and I have sired a lot of great kids. I have been married for over half my life and have not slowed down in the whoopie department even a little. I hope that someone will make good on some of the advice I have offered.
This really just proves the points I made in my article. In fact, just about everything he said, I anticipated explicitly. The takeaway from Sam’s “advice” is “settle for the first woman who shows interest and bet the house that it all works out.” Sam admits his advice is practically worthless when he says he’s been divorced. Good for him that he’s got the resources laying around pay lawyers, but I don’t. Nor do I know anyone else who does.
“I won’t play the game bc it’s scary.” Not a good answer. Yes there is risk. There always is. But you can filter a lot of that by aggressively vetting while dating. Understanding we are in a bad world and everything we do is a salvage operation is not the same thing as taking on the first interested woman.
What makes you think I’m not playing the game? I’m just playing it more carefully than Sam thinks I should.
The man we require to lead this revolution will have tattoos he regrets and draw his lessons and fervor from a lifetime of being misled by ZOG because he was seduced in the crib by the media, music, entertainment, and the deliberately poisoned dialectic between the sexes. He will have broken free from the programming and know how to speak to the masses of similar men who are realizing they’ve been lied to and their identity is a cage which has led them to this point of doubt and frustration. Myles, sit down. You haven’t been here. You don’t know the territory. You aren’t a man of the people.
That was a lot of meaningless canards in a row. If you’re not actually going to say anything, why make a comment?
Reading comprehension difficulties, Myles? I guess all the nitpicking you do over primitive religious scriptures didn’t help you with contemporary English. Your holier than thou attitude is the most repellant stance of any among White Nationalists. Pushing your marginalizing doctrine isn’t going to foment a mass movement. Christianity is a LOLCOW.
An atheist? In 2023? And here I thought everyone that braindead had died out or retreated to paganism. If you’re stupid enough to still be an atheist these days, you deserve to be marginalized.
Miles Poland is a badass dude. For the record I am a tattoo free Woman. To each their own on that front. We need more guys like him.
This saga has given me cancer. I don’t want our best site to have a bad pissing match about women. I agreed with Myles but it has given me physical pain to read them all.
I don’t need to know who’s willing to settle for things and who isn’t.
Fellas. We know things are difficult and we can’t keep shaming our brothers for building wealth and skills and going (or not) for high quality women.
Men. Decide your limits and decide what you’re willing to risk. Heart break and finances are huge concerns.
Seriously though. I don’t want us to look bad to the enemy.
If reading something gives you physical pain you aren’t ready for what’s coming.
You’re acting like a woman.
With tattoos and a double digit body count.
“beautiful tattoo”
That would a be a first.
I’ve been married 18 years and my wife over the last 2 years for some reason (jewish media pushing degeneracy) she said she wanted to get a tattoo, I told her that I disagree with tattoos, and that if she got a tattoo I would love her less (this is as polite as i could be). I could have used some logical arguments and try to reason with her, but a women doesn’t respond to reason so why waste time doing that.
She remains pure, and untattooed.
Tattoo = those plug things degenerates put in their ears = horrendous ‘body modification’ = cutting your penis off to pretend to be a woman.
I stopped reading after the ‘sexy tattoo’ as my opinion of you does not need to get any lower.
Way to help swell the ranks through solidarity and acceptance of other White men, you catty queer.
Great advice Sam. You bring a world of wisdom to this site and this movement as a whole.
Cheers and God Bless.
“An atheist? In 2023? And here I thought everyone that braindead had died out or retreated to paganism. If you’re stupid enough to still be an atheist these days, you deserve to be marginalized.” – Myles Poland, elitist faggot.
And there it is. Myles Poland, and his negative Testosterone sidekick Super Lutheran, along with every other Christian in the Right are just the nominally male version of the clique from Mean Girls, sans the obligatory nigger. Because of your cringe focus on faith you’ve chosen to ghettoize yourselves from the largest and most essential demographic of White men available to our movement. There aren’t a whole lot more useful Christians waiting in the wings to join us, but there are legions of men you insult. All of these guys who are now coming of the age where they are realizing they wanted a family, regretting years of degeneracy, awakening to real politic, and desperately searching for solutions are coming our way. And then Jesus steps in like that nigger in the meme and blocks their path, courtesy of Myles Poland and his people. They aren’t coming here for Christian nonsense. They are not joining some faggot church. They are coming here for pro-White leadership that isn’t going to relegate them to second class members simply because they fell for the siren’s song of the lifestyle sold to them through every monitor since birth. Every one of you who think you are better than a fellow WN with tattoos are a blight on this movement. We should be welcoming of all White men, treating them as if they have equal potential, and congratulating them on having the strength to break free of ZOG’s spell. Nothing is a bigger waste of time and energy than the dumbass interfaith dialogs you gay nerds occupy yourselves with.
Translation: REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Tip harder, faggot. Antichristians are a liability. I have yet to be proven wrong about that. Fuck off back to BANG forum, paypiggy.
Myles, you’re a queer and Jesus was a nigger. I’m kidding. I don’t think that about Jesus. Because I don’t think about Jesus. I think about real politic. And Christianity, while being used for a myriad of purposes, often times contradictory purposes, is almost exclusively used as a leverage point for manipulation in the political arena. What drives the resurgent White Nationalist movement is anathema to tactics that have such an ulterior motive. The power of our propaganda is naked truth. Tangible, observable, immediate and apparent truths. Pairing any religion to the recruitment efforts distorts and bastardizes the message by using a vector of manipulation to convince the listener of beliefs rather than relying on facts.
I have no interest in paganism, atheism, or spirituality whatsoever. So to criticize me as an atheist slides right off my back. I refuse to even engage with the subject on its own merits. My stance is outside, from a better and broader vantage point, where I can see the most White people fumbling in the dark searching for our light. The light of pro-White politics where their contributions and presence is welcomed and wanted. We don’t require anyone to believe in any silly doctrine. Especially not one so rife with internal contradictions and that it requires an inb4 of “faith” to explain them away. If Myles’ god wanted us it would have given us “faith” as well. But Myles’ god did not instill faith in me. Or many of you. But, if any god does exist, it did make us all White. So that’s what matters to me.
Myles, your religion has been thoroughly defeated, turned inside out and reanimated to spread conversion of its foundational antithesis. Nothing could be more obscene. Yet you cling to this deformed monstrosity that has only proven one worldly truth, and that truth is Christianity was so weak it has become the thrall of Judaism.
What this tells me is the men you treat as dregs coming our way are strong enough to recover from the brainwashing of ZOG, which sometimes actually delivers on its seductive promises unlike Christianity, while you aren’t strong enough to break the spell of a dead religion whose defiled corpse is paraded around right before your eyes in a state of utter and complete humiliation. Those guys with the shitty tattoos and girlfriends who don’t have a spotless record that have embraced pro-White politics are stronger than you will ever be.
Maybe you should write a longer angry walltext. I’m sure that will help. Here, I’ll try it.
Take Pascal’s Wager. Take the Thomas Jefferson Pill. Just stop screeching.
Your argument is in bad faith, because 1) you’re doing *exactly* what you accuse Myles of doing: driving a hard wedge over the issue of religion; and 2) you’re changing the subject.
Myles did not say that men with shitty tattoos are dregs to be turned aside from the movement. He’s never said that, as far as I know. He also didn’t say that a tattoo on a woman is a deal-breaker, just that it’s a negative data point to be considered as part of the whole data set. He did not say that a woman who is not a 100% pure virgin is not marriageable, he said that a woman with a high body count won’t make a good and faithful wife. Both points are correct.
I don’t know you, but I know that you are either: 1) a woman with tattoos and a high number of sexual partners, or 2) a man in a romantic relationship with a woman with a high number of previous sexual partners, or 3) a homosexual man, or 4) a man with many embarrassing tattoos, or 5) Adam Green, who ticks several of the above boxes.
To remind you, the discussion is about how men who are looking for a wife should react to the extremely low quality of modern white american women, and to the very real dangers of engaging with them.
To Myles: Sam did provide one point of very actionable advice, though it was buried in geriatric gen-x’er boomerisms. He said: act like a shameless nigger. Hit on literally everything that’s even mildly attractive, just for the practice.
Be A Nigger To The System, where in this case ‘the system’ is women. Do it literally everywhere, to the point where you risk getting kicked out of places. Do it just for the practice. “Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed” comes to mind, but don’t take that literally, gross. The point is, hit on every female with a decent body and a decent face. All of them. All of them except the ones our guys are in relationships with. Indiscriminate fire. Even if it makes you feel like a nigger asshole, just go out there and be an asshole. I know you can do that, I know you can be an asshole, so go do it.
If nothing else, it’ll be funny.
Retarded Nigger says, “Your argument is in bad faith, because 1) you’re doing *exactly* what you accuse Myles of doing: driving a hard wedge over the issue of religion; and 2) you’re changing the subject.”
1. No, I am not. It’s not the tattooed contingent of White Nationalism who prance around with their noses in the air about the Christians. They certainly aren’t the ones flooding every feed with “Tattoos are King” or in any way attempting to proselytize their choices onto Christians. Mostly, from what I have encountered, they just wish they had had better fathers.
2. It’s all part of a larger attitude Myles and his guys carry. The subject is the same at it’s core.
Attempting to build a character profile of me doesn’t serve you in any way. My points stand. Christianity, insofar as it can be judged by the actions of it’s emissaries, is not one of the reasons White Nationalism is slower to grow that it should be given its essential truths, it’s the second largest one behind the power of Jewish media.
Buddy, did you not pick up on the fact that we’re talking about tattooed *women* and the fact that it’s a red flag for dating? I’m not into dudes (sorry to disappoint you), so I don’t care whether they have tats or not.
Oh no, a gay jibe from a guy who has never seen a vagina that wasn’t in a textbook. However will I recover?
Infight Tonite! Infight Tonight!
There are some pretty big straw men being erected here. Based on what I have heard and read from The Godcast, they are not White Nationalists. They are pro Christian and pro White. The former being more important to Myles and Super than the latter. So, yes interfaith dialogues may be unproductive for a WN or NS movement but that isn’t their purpose. Real talk, this whole thing started over dueling advice columns for men trying to navigate the minefield that dating/marriage has become.
I (Myles) am a White Nationalist. Super isn’t, but he is pro-White. At this early point in the game, I don’t see any meaningful distinction. But yes, Christianity is more important to us than pro-White politics. My policy is to meet people where they are with regards to Christianity. If they don’t want to talk about it, I won’t talk about it. If they want to make untrue claims about Christianity, I’m going to address those falsehoods.
I like Super Lutheran. I find him quite affable.
Can we all please take a second to reflect on what is being said here in these comments? Anti-Christian sentiment? Anti-male commentary? I’m flabbergasted. Myles was correct in everything that he was saying, and to pretend like he’s wrong just because some opinionated female happened to be offended is an indictment of what is becoming of our big-tent movement.
When the pioneers of America’s earliest days marched westward, they did so under the guidance of the cross. Their women listened to their husbands. There were no tattoos in sight.
We need to learn from our forebears and support people like Myles, who only dared to speak an inconvenient truth. If we Amerikaner men want to “rise now and be counted,” we must first learn to “sit down and listen” to wise men like the Godcast.
I understand where Sam is coming from, however he does not calculate that Myles and other Christian men like myself have a hard set standard of women we will date and thus flirt with.
I WILL NOT date or show interest in any woman who does not share my faith, and I am also looking for someone who serves in the Church as well. I will not find this woman by hitting on every woman I see or by randomly flirting at the bar or other venues.
I want a faithful Christian woman who will help instill good Christian characteristics into our children and I know that woman will not be one who just swoons over some rando who flirted with her at the bar.
Wingcucks sure have strong emotions about tattoos